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part of what hagel is arguing, not all wars are worth winning. we tend to discuss, as long as we won, that is fine, good enough. and his point is there is a cost, even to something that goes to that, as well. >> and he expresses it emotionally in the hearing, it is not just the fact that you can staunch the bleeding, it is the fact you need to treat the wound. and that is where hagel wanted to express he was coming from, there were some engagements that shouldn't be done. and we shouldn't think as view is, somebody should write us out of the main stream. >> you picked what hagel talked about, what he wants to do with the navy. it strikes me as important, as well. if you could play that. >> the navy is an indispensable part of our security apparatus. first it is the one unobjectable power we have in the world. obviously, our balances of the asia pacific, persian gulf, we talked all day about iran, specifically iran in the persian gulf. you know we have the fifth fleet, and bahrain, two little battle groups in that small area. the flexibility, the
part of what hagel is arguing, not all wars are worth winning. we tend to discuss, as long as we won, that is fine, good enough. and his point is there is a cost, even to something that goes to that, as well. >> and he expresses it emotionally in the hearing, it is not just the fact that you can staunch the bleeding, it is the fact you need to treat the wound. and that is where hagel wanted to express he was coming from, there were some engagements that shouldn't be done. and we shouldn't...
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why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not, but the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam, and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here is mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle here, and he wouldn't let go on the question of the iraq surge. again, what david said. let's listen again, back again to the old war. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? >> my -- >> yes or no. >> my referenc
why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still...
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hag mccain was getting testy and hagel was dodging. it was one of the key military decisions in the past ten years, and if senator hagel is the top military adviser to the president, they want to explore his thinking on that. and politics, trying to portray senator hagel as anti israel plays well to some interest groups, and that's much more politics. >> to pull from a football term given the weekend, it seems like he was fumbling around. was he not as well prepared as he ought to have been? >> no doubt, senators walked out of the hearing shaking their head, from both sides, democrats and republicans were very surprised how poorly prepared senator hagel appeared to be. for expected -- like senator mccain's questions about the surge. that's just a fundamental question you knew was coming and he seemed not to have an explanation for his own position. it -- a lot of people shaking their heads about it. >> does he get confirmed? >> he gets confirmed. you heard jay carney say that yesterday. the white house is counting on more than 50 votes
hag mccain was getting testy and hagel was dodging. it was one of the key military decisions in the past ten years, and if senator hagel is the top military adviser to the president, they want to explore his thinking on that. and politics, trying to portray senator hagel as anti israel plays well to some interest groups, and that's much more politics. >> to pull from a football term given the weekend, it seems like he was fumbling around. was he not as well prepared as he ought to have...
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now over chuck hagel, this could be the next battle. it's a big question of whether republicans are really spoiling for that kind of unprecedented fight here. >> but we have john mccain. any other prominent republicans who may not vote for him? >> you've got about i'd say a dozen republicans right now who have come out and said they are actively opposing his nomination. none of them have said so far whether they would actually be willing to block it. the republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell has held off right now on saying if that's an option for them. it's a big question. i think you've seen a lot of other nominees get blocked. certainly richard cordray, the appointee for the consumer financial protection bureau is not going anywhere right now. but the opposition to this kind of appointment of chuck hagel, someone who i think a lot of voters throughout the country weren't as aware of like someone like susan rice ace different question here. >> speaking of john mccain moving on to you, alice, let's take a look at these tense
now over chuck hagel, this could be the next battle. it's a big question of whether republicans are really spoiling for that kind of unprecedented fight here. >> but we have john mccain. any other prominent republicans who may not vote for him? >> you've got about i'd say a dozen republicans right now who have come out and said they are actively opposing his nomination. none of them have said so far whether they would actually be willing to block it. the republican leader in the...
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he pressed hagel. take a listen. >> i would like a answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or a no answer on a lot of things. >> then let the record show that you refuse to answer the question, now please go ahead. >> if you would like me to explain why -- >> i actually would like an answer. yes or no? i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir. and you are on the wrong side of it. >> colonel -- >> when hagel said i think i would like to explain, you know mccain does not want him to explain. he wants a yes or no answer. >> why did he shy away from doing that? >> i don't know. bob and i were talking about it before, he knew the questions were coming. he nie who was going to deliver them. he had time to rehearse. >> i think of the right answer two days after the right answer should have been given. history actually does show that the surge worked. that my vote was wrong and your vote was right. but senator mc
he pressed hagel. take a listen. >> i would like a answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or a no answer on a lot of things. >> then let the record show that you refuse to answer the question, now please go ahead. >> if you would like me to explain why -- >> i actually would like an answer. yes or no? i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir. and you are on the wrong...
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. >> this is a clip from chuck hagel's hearing yesterday. listen to senator james inhofe's source for his information. >> there is an article the other day in the "washington post" by jennifer rubin called "our dim witted state department." it's kind of an interesting article. >> michael, how do you get these guys to stop listening to the same wild conspiracy theories? they just live in a different world. >> i think it is a little bit of a different world in that sense. i don't get -- i don't get the direction and the messaging that the party is putting out this right now. i really honestly don't. i think that we really need to sort of step back from this thing and really assess exactly what do we need to focus on. is benghazi of all the things that are pressing the american people right now something that as a national party we should be fixated on. hillary clinton, yes, she served as secretary of state. did an admiral job. most people would say that. yeah, there was this hiccup with benghazi. we unfortunately lost the lives of four u.s. se
. >> this is a clip from chuck hagel's hearing yesterday. listen to senator james inhofe's source for his information. >> there is an article the other day in the "washington post" by jennifer rubin called "our dim witted state department." it's kind of an interesting article. >> michael, how do you get these guys to stop listening to the same wild conspiracy theories? they just live in a different world. >> i think it is a little bit of a different...
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and chuck hagel does not believe that is the right one. we can all accept -- the president believes that senator hagel will make an excellent senate -- secretary of defense. he looks forward to working with senator hagel in that position as we continue to advance our national security priorities. >> the topic from yesterday. today's jobs data shows the unemployment rate rising. it has hovered in that range for a number of months. the economy created jobs. at a modest pace. we had a report recently of contraction in the nation's output in the fourth quarter of last year. there are people writing writing columns, calling for the need for a plan for faster growth, not deficit reduction. what does the president tell his advisers when he sees the signs of a sluggish recovery? what is he asking and the way of things to read recovery, create jobs, and stimulate growth? >> i will go to the narrow question first. every time he meets with his economic advisers, the focus is on job creation and economic growth. that includes when we had discussions a
and chuck hagel does not believe that is the right one. we can all accept -- the president believes that senator hagel will make an excellent senate -- secretary of defense. he looks forward to working with senator hagel in that position as we continue to advance our national security priorities. >> the topic from yesterday. today's jobs data shows the unemployment rate rising. it has hovered in that range for a number of months. the economy created jobs. at a modest pace. we had a report...
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. >> republicans threatened to hold up chuck hagel's nomination this week over benghazi. next week there is more hearings. leon panetta, the outgoing secretary is going to testify there. secretary clinton already testified there. is there anything that can be done at this point by secretary panetta or anybody else to convince republicans that it wasn't a secret ghost ship to turkey or some other conspiracy? is there any way to fact chilly disprove what they want to believe about it? >> this is going to go down as one of the right-wing myths about america that are never going to die there are a certain core that are going to keep banging the drum. at some point perhaps someone will nudge the people who are pursuing this say we actually have real problems in north africa there is an intervention happening in mali. there are substantive issues on the table. stop talking about this. but it is so hermetically sealed in that world. >> yeah. >> that i don't see them getting out of it, other than someone making some sort of crass political judgment that this is no longer bringing
. >> republicans threatened to hold up chuck hagel's nomination this week over benghazi. next week there is more hearings. leon panetta, the outgoing secretary is going to testify there. secretary clinton already testified there. is there anything that can be done at this point by secretary panetta or anybody else to convince republicans that it wasn't a secret ghost ship to turkey or some other conspiracy? is there any way to fact chilly disprove what they want to believe about it?...
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do you think he did a good job, senator chuck hagel? if you get all the democrats to say yes, you only need four or five republicans to get the confirmation. >> we'd love for to you weigh in. next up. from pro golfers, phil mickleson and tiger woods and tina turner, these celebrities with are getting taxed to the max. has the tax revolt started in america? >> iran claimed it successfully launched this monkey into space. but was it all fraud? more on the monkey business straight ahead. he >>> 1996 it was tiger woods. then it was phil mickleson. wealthy athletes, celebrities and businessmen say they're fed fed up with california's high taxes and some of them are heading out. so is a tax revolt started in america? joining us with is the author of the ultimate obama survival guide, wayne allen root. wayne, nice to see you. welcome to the show. >> clayton, good morning. >> we talked about phil mickleson, tiger woods, others, including tina turner, one of the co-founders of facebook, manny pack i don't. this isn't new though, right? wayne, we
do you think he did a good job, senator chuck hagel? if you get all the democrats to say yes, you only need four or five republicans to get the confirmation. >> we'd love for to you weigh in. next up. from pro golfers, phil mickleson and tiger woods and tina turner, these celebrities with are getting taxed to the max. has the tax revolt started in america? >> iran claimed it successfully launched this monkey into space. but was it all fraud? more on the monkey business straight...
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senator hagel, key was had by the executive commission on china, but talk solely about development issues. rule of law and economic growth is fine. but that's not the job he's getting. he said absolutely nothing about the rise of china. he's also said absolutely nothing about he has had the defense department is going to do with the rise of china in an era of budget cuts to the defense department he supports. it's very troubling, fred has a great way of putting this consensus reality that in a sense it doesn't matter. so did not do the job better and you can take that for granted. japan for the first time in a decade has not just her and run defense budget, modestly $1.6 billion increase. it would be nice to see it continue, but everyone watches very carefully to see the leading indicator, which is us and what we're willing to do. taiwan is a country rushing to the exit to make sure nothing comes between it and china and therefore i would argue the same credibility over whether the united states would intervene and i taiwan strait scenario, but we can expect the support and could even see
senator hagel, key was had by the executive commission on china, but talk solely about development issues. rule of law and economic growth is fine. but that's not the job he's getting. he said absolutely nothing about the rise of china. he's also said absolutely nothing about he has had the defense department is going to do with the rise of china in an era of budget cuts to the defense department he supports. it's very troubling, fred has a great way of putting this consensus reality that in a...
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his performance in the hearings for chuck hagel and his confrontation with hagel and hoping that filibuster would hope. >> that was with demagoguery like none i have seen. >> well, from the texas perspective, we think that ted cruz is doing a fine job and holding the feet to the fire. and pivoting to the immigration issue, what i have learned is that i have a sense that both sides want to resolve it and put it behind them, and hopefully we can resolve it once and for all. >> lorella? >> we learned that there is appetite in washington to work on immigration reform and mainly that the dreamers and others in the communities will hold the democrats and the president accountable. he talked about the lgbt families and include them in the bill, but the house did not. we know there is a house hearing on immigration tuesday. >> and the first time the house will take a bite at this. it will be interesting. i thank former secretary hilda sol solis, and aaron pena and lorella praeli, and thank you for getting "up." tomorrow morning we will have nobel prize winning winner joseph stiglitz. >>> and now, l
his performance in the hearings for chuck hagel and his confrontation with hagel and hoping that filibuster would hope. >> that was with demagoguery like none i have seen. >> well, from the texas perspective, we think that ted cruz is doing a fine job and holding the feet to the fire. and pivoting to the immigration issue, what i have learned is that i have a sense that both sides want to resolve it and put it behind them, and hopefully we can resolve it once and for all. >>...